Regarding X platform's open-source transparency initiative, Vitalik recently shared some interesting ideas.
He believes that if executed properly, Musk's open-source approach is indeed a good direction. The key is—must be truly verifiable and reproducible. Specifically, delaying the release of tweet data and anonymous like records by 4 weeks can effectively address everyone's concerns about algorithm transparency.
However, there is a practical issue. Vitalik thinks that a 4-week cycle might be a bit ambitious and prone to poor execution. He suggests changing it to a 1-year delay, which could better prevent data from being manipulated artificially. But most importantly, it must ensure that ordinary users can download the code and verify it themselves—checking for shadow bans, downranking, and other covert operations.
The background is that Musk previously announced plans to open-source the new version of X within 7 days, so this discussion is essentially exploring how to balance decentralization transparency and platform controllability.
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DegenWhisperer
· 01-12 05:09
It's too naive to think that way for 4 weeks. Vitalik is right; you need to leave some margin.
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Honestly, the core is the shadow ban part. Data transparency is useless; users can't verify anything at all.
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Is Elon Musk just making empty promises again? Launching a new version of X in 7 days—wake up, everyone.
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A one-year delay still doesn't fully solve the problem. The trust issue is still there.
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Verifiable and reproducible sounds good, but I don't know if the real situation can actually be achieved.
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This logic is actually just an illusion of transparency that the platform wants, while still retaining maximum control.
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Cracking the algorithm black box is true progress; everything else is just superficial.
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Vitalik is always thinking about how to maximize decentralization, but reality always involves compromises.
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No matter how lively the discussion gets, in the end, it's still Elon Musk who calls the shots—that's the problem.
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GateUser-9ad11037
· 01-12 02:42
1-year delay? Elon Musk probably just wants to throw up a smoke screen.
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Vitalik's idea is indeed ideal, but has it really been implemented? That's the real question.
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In the end, it's all about balancing transparency and control—the story of the fish and the bear's paw.
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Can ordinary users verify it themselves? Sounds wonderful, but in reality, how many people will actually do it?
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Changing from 4 weeks to 1 year is almost like not open-sourcing at all. I see this as just stalling tactics.
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Decentralized transparency—Web3 folks have been thinking about this for ages but haven't figured it out. Can X pull it off?
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The core is to prevent manipulation, right? But who will supervise this group responsible for preventing manipulation?
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Shadow banning is indeed annoying, but what's the use of data after a year?
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Vitalik's suggestions sound reliable, but it all depends on execution. Elon Musk's side will probably change again.
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How many years have we been talking about algorithm transparency? In the end, it's all just on paper.
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fork_in_the_road
· 01-12 02:42
Oh, it's that transparency thing again. It sounds nice, but who would really believe it when it’s implemented?
Four weeks to a year? That’s about right. Elon Musk’s seven-day promises have probably already fallen apart.
Everyone can verify the code? Wake up, most people can’t even compile.
This is the real power game—whoever controls the interpretation wins.
Wait, is Vitalik really committed or just hyping again?
Trust in open source is only half the story; the platform is still a platform.
The shadow ban detection part is somewhat effective, but how it’s executed is a problem.
They want both transparency and control—can you really have both?
Delaying by a year to be safe? Ha, that’s too naive.
It all comes down to who sets the rules; everything else is just nonsense.
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HashBard
· 01-12 02:38
vitalik being the voice of reason again... 4 weeks vs 1 year is lowkey the whole tension between "move fast break things" and "actually don't break the algorithm lol" 🤔
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EyeOfTheTokenStorm
· 01-12 02:38
Changing from 4 weeks to 1 year, Vitalik is lowering expectations... Frankly, it's still a matter of technical execution difficulty. From a market cycle perspective, we'll have to wait and see.
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DataBartender
· 01-12 02:25
A 4-week change to a year? Is this guy trying to be cautious or just procrastinating? It's hard to tell.
The true core of transparency still has to be allowing ordinary people to verify themselves; otherwise, it's just tricks.
Elon Musk's 7-day promise is a bit outrageous. Let's see if he actually follows through in the end.
Shadow bans and such things, if not transparent, will always exist. Open-source code can really save lives.
Honestly, how long the delay is doesn't matter. The key is whether anyone actually goes to verify.
Regarding X platform's open-source transparency initiative, Vitalik recently shared some interesting ideas.
He believes that if executed properly, Musk's open-source approach is indeed a good direction. The key is—must be truly verifiable and reproducible. Specifically, delaying the release of tweet data and anonymous like records by 4 weeks can effectively address everyone's concerns about algorithm transparency.
However, there is a practical issue. Vitalik thinks that a 4-week cycle might be a bit ambitious and prone to poor execution. He suggests changing it to a 1-year delay, which could better prevent data from being manipulated artificially. But most importantly, it must ensure that ordinary users can download the code and verify it themselves—checking for shadow bans, downranking, and other covert operations.
The background is that Musk previously announced plans to open-source the new version of X within 7 days, so this discussion is essentially exploring how to balance decentralization transparency and platform controllability.